Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anonas Street

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎ to Aurora Boulevard. Any editor interested in merging content to the target article can do so. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 07:33, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anonas Street

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Tagged as unsourced since 2017. WP:NROAD states: "Topic notability...local roads, streets...are presumed to be notable if they have been the subject of multiple published secondary sources which contain significant coverage and are reliable and independent of the subject." But Anonas Street is just like any other street in the Philippines. Note that the street is not named after the station, but (per claim in this article) "named after the Anonas family who originated from Iba, Zambales, settled in this area and built a factory near the river." The claim itself is unsourced. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 05:56, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Transportation and Philippines. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 05:56, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As it would be, as a sourced claim would probably point to the (not too reliable) guidebooks such as https://lakansining.wordpress.com/2020/02/02/quezon-city-exploring-the-histories-of-landmarks-along-anonas-street-passing-through-the-quirino-sikatuna-and-teachers-village-districts/ (self-published) saying that it is named after Annona reticulata, and really not treating this street as their focus, as nor do the history books. That self-published page leads to another, https://lakansining.wordpress.com/2020/01/30/quezon-city-the-peoples-homesite-and-housing-projects/, whose title tells us what to look for, and find, in the very much not self-published history books: the People's Homesite and Housing Corporation.
There's probably a way to discuss the People's Homesite and Housing Corporation projects (the actual historical things), including Project 2 that this street is in and that forms part of the Quirino District, in Wikipedia; but going street by street like this and not starting with the PHHC (which, bizarrely, only gets more than a mention anywhere, in a subsection of the Veterans Village article) is not the way to do it. The world has not documented Quezon City this way.
Whereas the PHHC in contrast is documented in a wide variety of sources starting with ISBN 9780226598253 (pp. 112 et seq, University of Chicago Press) ISBN 9781003812883 (pp. 207 et seq. which has a breakdown of Quirino District into projects 1, 2, 3, and 4, Taylor & Francis) and more contemporary sources such as Garde, Flavanio A., ed. (1965). "Planning for Children and Youth in National Development: the Philippine Experience (part 2)". The Philippine Economy Bulletin. Vol. 4, no. 2. National Economic Council..
Uncle G (talk) 10:01, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Aurora Boulevard, where it is mentioned, per WP:ATD and WP:CHEAP. Anonas Street lacks sufficient coverage to support an entry. gidonb (talk) 05:55, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Gidonb those are different roads, right? I don't see any relation between them even if Anonas is connected to it and it is mentioned there. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 10:49, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Anonas Street is a feeder street into Aurora Boulevard. WP:ATDs are much appreciated, upfront and after the fact! gidonb (talk) 12:50, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I found a paragraph in this article by the Philippines edition of Esquire magazine, which states: At one point, Anonas St. in Quezon City became a hotspot for live music, and Freedom Bar and 70's Bistro were its busiest centers. Here, local bands were encouraged to play originals to jampacked crowds. Busy Anonas St. also accommodated a network of fans and musicians, providing an opportunity for folk and rock musicians to bump into one other. Left guide (talk) 03:02, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Left guide still it is just one reliable source, not sufficient to make this article worthy of inclusion here. Perhaps at least 2 or 3 sources needed. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 04:53, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@JWilz12345: Understood, just laying it out here in case someone else is able to piece together another source or two (offline/print/newspaper/etc) to build a stronger case for notability, or if there's merge potential. Left guide (talk) 06:44, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:03, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 09:12, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak Keep~~ with sources presented above. SBKSPP (talk) 23:53, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Changing my vote below. SBKSPP (talk) 03:10, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – apart from the sources above – I'm aware that YouTube videos, Wikipedia files don't contribute to WP:NOTABILITY, but there are a lot of both regarding Anonas Street. There are also real estate listings. I'm looking at WP:Notability_(streets_and_roads) and WP:Notability_(Geographic_locations) (failed proposals though), this meets the criteria for both. TLA (talk) 05:45, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - I find the above case for keep unpersuasive. If additional sources are ever found, the article can be easily restored. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 14:50, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I still see no sources in the article establishing notability, just another generic road. I don't think a redirect to a larger intersecting street makes sense. Reywas92^Talk 16:44, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to List of roads in Metro Manila#Quezon City, where a sentence or two of sourced material from the Esquire piece can be integrated as a brief description, since the available sourcing is simply not enough for a standalone article. Left guide (talk) 20:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist to discuss the merits of possible merge/redirect targets.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 22:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Aurora Boulevard, do not delete, where it is connected per gidonb's argument. SBKSPP (talk) 03:10, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as there's next-to-nothing to merge to Aurora Boulevard or to anywhere else, and redirecting it to this article would just make more questions than answers to a potential reader. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:52, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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