Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lal Lipstick

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The result was redirect to Ami Neta Hobo#Soundtrack. (non-admin closure) buidhe 06:36, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Lal Lipstick

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There are 10 sources in the article. All of them are related to releasing this song on YouTube. This film song clearly fails WP:GNG or WP:NMUSIC. S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 06:37, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 06:37, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 06:37, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 06:37, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

 Disagree There's plenty of reliable sources published in Bangladeshi media, whether or not the song charts, sufficient coverage exists in reliable music sources to meet WP:GNG, WP:NSONGS, while there is overlapping material from these examples, there's enough to satisfy the "reasonably detailed article" standard by criteria Wikipedia:Notability (music) song line no. 3. and Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles line no. 5 — Masum Ibn Musa  ^Conversation 05:05, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Note to closing admin: Masum Ibn Musa (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 07:04, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

• Comment whatever claimed by Masum Ibn Musa are not correct.

1. He claimed that the article passes WP:GNG. The sources are present in the article is not able to pass the article WP:GNG. The lit. translation of the non English sources in the article are Lal Lipstick, song of Ami Neta Hobo is released/will be released. These sources are not enough for passing WP:GNG or WP:NSONGS. WP:RS can't make a subject notable all time. See Taimur Ali Khan, who has plenty of coverage for being son of Saif Ali Khan and Kareena Kapoor Khan, is protected now.
2. His another claim of passing WP:SONG criteria no. 3 is not correct. It was mentioned there "Has been independently released as a recording by several notable artists, bands, or groups." It does not mean that each and every duet song is notable. It means that a song can be a subject for standalone wikipedia article if it is released by several notable artists independently.
3. His last claim that it passes Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles which is not correct as it is for singer, DJs, rappers or other persons not for a song. Even, the criteria is not enough for making the song a standalone article.
4. Even via google search in both Bengali and English I did not find any reason for this Lal Lipstick can be a standalone article by passing WP:GNG or WP:NMUSIC.

As per WP:NRECORDING and above all Lal Lipstick can be redirected to Ami Neta Hobo.S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 07:27, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:19, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, buidhe 01:37, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

• Redirect to the Soundtrack section of Ami Neta Hobo. Yes there is evidence that this song was released individually, but editors claiming that it received press notice as an item independent of the film are going to have to deliver the goods. Like the nominator, I can find no such evidence. And even if such evidence is found, it can simply be added to the film's article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 15:29, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
• Delete Fails WP:GNG & WP:NMUSIC. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 04:15, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

  provide here why you think that its how fails WP:GNG ? 119.30.41.187 (talk) 00:46, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

  see S. M. Nazmus Shakib's comment. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 04:16, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

• Keep. No reason for deletion , lot of bangladeshi WP:RS newspaper article here. Enough for pass WP:GNG. Who nomination look like a paid editor. Who nominated this article he was create lot on non notable article when someone vote delete that time say Bangladeshi notable published news but now reasons find out why nomination this article its totally irrational.119.30.41.187 (talk) 00:46, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This discussion sorely needs input from uninvolved editors, or it will go to a no consensus. KaisaL (talk) 07:55, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KaisaL (talk) 07:55, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

• Redirect to Ami Neta Hobo#Soundtrack, as recommended above by DOOMSDAYER520 and S. M. Nazmus Shakib, for the reasons they outlined. The cited sources are churnalism, media reprints of a couple press releases intended to promote the song and film, not independent of the artists or film producers. There is no information in the song article that isn't, or couldn't be, in the soundtrack section of the film article. Redirection to the film follows the spirit of WP:NSONG's advice to cover the song in the album article rather than creating a stand alone article about it. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:06, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

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