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It's probably Scratch. Comments are kinda glitchy, and like to disappear on you. Also, not sure if you're allowed to integrate AI into Scratch or perform social actions like commenting via a bot - just don't quote me on that |
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Understood. I will do some ToS and other various document scanning to see
what I come up with.
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It's probably Scratch. Comments are kinda glitchy, and like to disappear
on you.
Also, not sure if you're allowed to integrate AI into Scratch or perform
social actions like commenting via a bot - just don't quote me on that
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It's probably Scratch. Comments are kinda glitchy, and like to disappear
on you.
Also, not sure if you're allowed to integrate AI into Scratch or perform
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Scratch doesn't allow bot commenting, read scratch.mit.edu/robots.txt |
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Darn okay. I will figure something out.
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Scratch doesn't allow bot commenting, read scratch.mit.edu/robots.txt
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Scratch doesn't allow bot commenting, read scratch.mit.edu/robots.txt
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Reading that, I am slightly confused. Also, doesn't that mean that Scratchattach is not allowed? |
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Scratchattach's primary goal is scratch API interactions in general, not specifically comment bots. |
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Well, you can use the social actions features in many ways that isn't "bot commenting" - for example, if you had a script that you would run manually, and wasn't in a loop, that would probably be ok. edit: @Fluffyscratch beat me to it |
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So looking at robots.txt I don't see anything disallowing. I also am not good with robots.txt files. |
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robots.txt files are for search engine crawlers, like Googlebot, to know where to avoid crawling. I don't see how it could be important to bot commenting. |
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@kRxZykRxZy said to read that and said that is where Scratch said no bots.
Can I get a link to where scratch disallowed it? I looked in the Scratch
ToS for words like "bot" "AI" "Intelligence" "auto" "automation" and got
nothing.
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robots.txt files are for search engine crawlers, like Googlebot, to know
where to avoid crawling. I don't see how it could be important to bot
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robots.txt files are for search engine crawlers, like Googlebot, to know
where to avoid crawling. I don't see how it could be important to bot
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I'm not sure where that might be. Try posting on the Forums or asking via
Contact Us.
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@kRxZykRxZy said to read that and said that is where Scratch said no bots.
<br> Can I get a link to where scratch disallowed it? I looked in the
Scratch <br> ToS for words like "bot" "AI"
"Intelligence" "auto" "automation" and got
<br> nothing. <br> <br> On Tue, Apr 22, 2025, 10:28 minniesBaa
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I don't see how it could be important to bot <br> > commenting. <br>
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@kRxZykRxZy said to read that and said that is where Scratch said no bots.
<br> Can I get a link to where scratch disallowed it? I looked in the
Scratch <br> ToS for words like "bot" "AI"
"Intelligence" "auto" "automation" and got
<br> nothing. <br> <br> On Tue, Apr 22, 2025, 10:28 minniesBaa
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I don't see how it could be important to bot <br> > commenting. <br>
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That's what I through, thanks for your confirmation. |
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So looking over Scratch's legal documents I don't see anything that would disallow bot commenting. So, unless anyone could find something that says otherwise, I think the bot will stay. But if you do find something else that says otherwise please tell me. |
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Try not posting the comment as reply, that could decrease the delay |
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That wouldnt really work because the bot is meant to reply to the user that sent them the message, or else the user would receive a message back in their notifications. The comment delay can also be from your Internet speeds to send the |
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Oh my goodness @TimMcCool actually replied. I would do that, but that would make everything look more messy than necessary. Also the automatic message they get when a reply happens is good for what I am doing. |
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We have great wifi, and I have the program pushing a message to the server
when a comment gets received, and it takes a long time before it receives
the message and prints the message.
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Try not posting the comment as reply, that could decrease the delay
That wouldnt really work because the bot is meant to reply to the user
that sent them the message, or else the user would receive a message back
in their notifications.
The comment delay can also be from your Internet speeds to send the POST
request to the API.
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You can't really fix this because scratch api doesn't have instant refreshing. |
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I think that is the issue. I had about 5 comments in the past hour, and it took 30 minutes for the bot to respond, but when it did, it sent the responses within a minute of each response, even though they were like 5-10 minutes apart. Seems like it does it in batches. It could also have to do with that I am self-hosting on a Raspberry Pi running the DietPi OS. |
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Run it on render, it's so much quicker, it's free. |
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But does it 24/7 host python?
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I think that is the issue. I had about 5 comments in the past hour, and it
took 30 minutes for the bot to respond, but when it did, it sent the
responses within a minute of each response, even though they were like 5-10
minutes apart. Seems like it does it in batches. It could also have to do
with that I am self-hosting on a Raspberry Pi running the DietPi OS.
Run it on render, it's so much quicker, it's free.
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I think it runs 24/7 for 25 days a month Edit : uhhh read this specifically the warning |
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Yeah, you can host I think about two different services, node.js python next.js etc |
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It runs 24/7 all month unless you hit the limits by hosting more than two services |
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I don't think the hosting is the problem. I am also hosting a Discord Bot
on the same device and the response time is very fast.
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But does it 24/7 host python?
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I think it runs 24/7 for 25 days a month
Edit : uhhh read this
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It runs 24/7 all month unless you hit the limits by hosting more than two
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Would you maybe send your code?
MilesWK ***@***.***> schrieb am Di., 6. Mai 2025, 14:38:
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I don't think the hosting is the problem. I am also hosting a Discord
Bot <br> on the same device and the response time is very fast. <br> <br>
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<#m_-2767093148508149397_> <br> > <br> > I think it runs 24/7
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Yep! I can do it soon.
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Would you maybe send your code? <br> <br> MilesWK ***@***.***> schrieb
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<br> > I don&#39;t think the hosting is the problem. I am also
hosting a Discord <br> > Bot <br> on the same device and the
response time is very fast. <br> <br> <br> > On Tue, May 6,
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In case you didn't see this in my previous reply, |
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@minniesBaa So I am getting two different info. The terms of use linked at the bottom of all scratch pages doesn't say anything. Likewise, reading the wiki and the terms of use linked in the warning, I don't see what they are referencing. I also noticed that at the top of the document it says
Are we able to move this over to my discussion page, because I feel like a scratchattach closed issue might not be the place to discuss this, as it is off-topic. Edit: Can we move the conversation here? |
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Hello!
I created ScratchCat-AI but I am facing issues with latency between when a user posts a comment and when the bot responds. Usually it is 2 minutes, which is fine, but other times it can take 15+ minutes.
Is this Scratchattach's issue? My Code? Scratch? The User?
Thanks!
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