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U.S.

Department of Justice

Office of Legislative Affairs

Office of the Assistant Attorney General Washington, DC 20530

The Honorable Jim Jordan


Chairman
Committee on the Judiciary
U.S. House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515

Dear Chairman Jordan:

We are in receipt of your January 17, 2023, letters to the Department of Justice
(Department), as well as three of our law enforcement components, the Federal Bureau of
Investigation (FBI), Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,
Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), regarding information requests that you sent during the 117th
Congress. 1 In light of your appointment as Chairman of the House Committee on the Judiciary
(Committee), the Department would like to take this opportunity to review our practices with
respect to congressional engagement for the benefit of both new and returning Members of the
Committee. We look forward to a productive relationship in the 118th Congress.

We welcome your interest in the Department’s work. The Office of Legislative Affairs
(OLA) is responsible for communications between Congress and the Department. Please begin
any inquiry to the Department with OLA personnel. You are welcome to contact OLA staff
directly or to phone the OLA front office at 202-514-4600 for assistance. We request that all
official correspondence to the Department be transmitted by email to
DOJ.Correspondence@usdoj.gov. The Department will ensure that each congressional letter and
inquiry receives its own consideration by OLA and Department personnel based on subject
matter and complexity. While the Department strives to answer congressional inquiries
promptly, ensuring the accuracy and completeness of information that the Department provides
to Congress is a matter of utmost importance.

The Department stands ready to provide expertise as the Committee considers


potential legislation. We often provide technical assistance on draft or introduced legislation
to ensure the drafters are aware of how it may impact civil litigation, criminal investigations
and prosecutions, grant making, and other matters within the Department’s purview, and to
ensure its constitutionality. We encourage you to share legislative drafts as early as possible
because our review can be time-consuming. Early consultation with the Department will help

1
We are also in receipt of your letter to the Department dated January 13, 2023, and will respond under separate
cover.
The Honorable Jim Jordan
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prevent instances in which drafters are inconvenienced by late feedback from the
Department, or are left altogether unaware of significant Department concerns.

We anticipate your Committee will invite Department representatives to appear at


hearings, which serve as important tools for informing the public about the Department’s work.
Preparation for hearings often takes significant time, so the Department has long insisted that
congressional committees send a written invitation for public testimony at least two weeks
in advance of the hearing date. 2 Sufficient advance notice enables the identification of a
mutually agreeable date that meets the Committee’s needs while taking into account the
operational responsibilities of Department representatives, including overseeing criminal
and national security investigations. The Committee should include information about the
focus of the hearing and any specific matters the Department should be prepared to address.
Two weeks is the minimum advance notice required for the Department to identify an
appropriate witness and prepare testimony, which must be cleared through the Office of
Management and Budget.

The Department will be better able to meet your needs at hearings if your request is
specific concerning the information the Committee seeks. While we will work diligently to
accommodate requests for public testimony, it may not always be possible to participate or
to address all the topics the Committee wishes to raise. When information is not appropriate
for a public hearing, we will make appropriate efforts to determine if such information can
be shared in a different setting, such as a briefing, a closed hearing, or through the provision
of other information.

Once the format of the hearing or briefing is established, and the relevant topics and
number of panels have been determined, the Department will identify one or more officials
to appear after consideration of all factors, including their schedules, their position, and
other suitability concerns. The Department generally requires that briefers or hearing
witnesses be in senior supervisory positions. Again, we encourage your staff to reach out to
OLA as early in the process as possible so we can work with you to identify the most
appropriate participants.

With respect to oversight requests for information and documents, we share your
belief that congressional oversight is vital to our functioning democracy and we are
committed to cooperating with the Committee’s legitimate efforts to seek information,
consistent with our obligation to protect Executive Branch confidentiality interests. As
President Reagan explained in his 1982 directive on responding to congressional requests for
information, the “tradition of accommodation” should be “the primary means of resolving
conflicts between the Branches.” 3 The Constitution “contemplates such accommodation” and

2
See, e.g., Letter from Assistant Attorney General Peter Kadzik to Chairman Grassley (Mar. 5, 2015)
(“Traditionally, the Department has required at least two weeks’ written notice prior to the appearance of a
Department witness at a congressional hearing.”); Letter from Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich to
Chairman Conyers (Oct. 25, 2010) (same).
3
Memorandum for Heads of Executive Agencies: Procedures Governing Responses to Congressional Requests for
Information (Nov. 4, 1982), https://www.justice.gov/ola/page/file/1090526/download.
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requires each Branch to engage in a “realistic evaluation of [one another’s] needs.” 4 The
overwhelming majority of congressional requests for information are resolved in a manner that
satisfies both Branches in the spirit of our “ongoing relationship that the Framers intended to
feature both rivalry and reciprocity.” 5 Successful compromises are most often possible when
both Branches hew to the accommodation process.

The Committee can assist the Department in making this process as efficient as possible
by helping the Department understand the scope of its interests, by discussing the potential use or
protection of the information, and, especially importantly, by prioritizing requests. Prioritization
is critical to an efficient accommodation process. It enables the Department to focus its limited
resources on the information most pertinent to the Committee’s inquiries. Without prioritization,
requests will take longer to resolve and will be more likely to yield irrelevant information.

Regarding requests to interview Department officials as part of your oversight


efforts, the Department will work collaboratively with the Committee to identify the proper
official to respond to your legitimate informational needs. As a matter of longstanding
policy and practice, the Department refrains from making line agents and line attorneys
available for congressional testimony or interviews. We send policy-level supervisory
officials accompanied by agency counsel. 6 After an appropriate witness has been identified,
our engagement with the Committee staff in the accommodation process will typically
address the length and scope of the interview; whether the interview will be informal or
result in a transcript; our access to review any transcript; and other details that are necessary
to protect Department interests and ensure consistency with historical practices.

Consistent with longstanding policy and practice, any oversight requests must be
weighed against the Department’s interests in protecting the integrity of its work.
Longstanding Department policy prevents us from confirming or denying the existence of
pending investigations in response to congressional requests or providing non-public
information about our investigations. 7 The Department’s obligation to “protect the
government’s ability to prosecute fully and fairly” is vital to the Executive Branch’s core
constitutional function to investigate and prosecute criminal matters. 8 The Department’s mission

4
United States v. AT&T, 567 F.2d 121, 127, 130 (D.C. Cir. 1997).
5
Trump v. Mazars USA, LLP, 140 S. Ct. 2019, 2026 (2020).
6
See Letter from Robert Raben, Assistant Attorney General, Office of Legislative Affairs, U.S. Department of
Justice to Rep. John Linder, Chairman, Subcommittee on Rules and Organization, House Committee on Rules, at 6
(Jan. 27, 2000) (“Linder Letter”), https://www.justice.gov/file/1080046/download; Attempted Exclusion of Agency
Counsel from Congressional Depositions of Agency Employees, 43 Op. OLC (2019).
7
See, e.g., Linder Letter; Fed. R. Crim. P. 6(e); Response to Congressional Requests for Information Regarding
Decisions Made Under the Independent Counsel Act, 10 Op. O.L.C. 68, 76 (1986) (“[T]he policy of the Executive
Branch throughout our Nation's history has generally been to decline to provide committees of Congress with access
to, or copies of, open law enforcement files except in extraordinary circumstances.”); Position of the Executive
Department Regarding Investigative Reports, 40 Op. Att’y Gen. 45, 46 (1941) (“It is the position of this
Department, restated now with the approval of and at the direction of the President, that all investigative reports are
confidential documents of the executive department of the Government, to aid in the duty laid upon the President by
the Constitution to ‘take care that the laws be faithfully executed,’ and that congressional or public access to them
would not be in the public interest.”).
8
Response to Congressional Requests for Information Regarding Decisions Made Under the Independent Counsel
Act, 10 Op. OLC 68, 76 (1986).
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to independently and impartially uphold the rule of law requires us to maintain the integrity of
our investigations, prosecutions, and civil actions, and to avoid even a perception that our efforts
are influenced by anything but the law and the facts. So does the Department’s obligation to
protect witnesses and law enforcement, avoid flight by those implicated in our investigations,
and prevent additional crimes and attacks.

Your January 17 letters reference information requests that you sent during the 117th
Congress. The Department and its components worked in good faith to respond to these
requests, consistent with the Department’s policy, based on interbranch comity and respect
for the legislative functions of individual Members, to give due weight and sympathetic
consideration to all requests from Members. 9 Your January 17 requests—made now in your
position as Chairman—initiate the constitutionally mandated accommodation process.
Under this process, the Legislative and Executive Branches have a constitutional obligation
to negotiate in good faith to meet the informational needs of Congress while protecting the
institutional interests of the Executive Branch. We look forward to beginning this process in
response to your January 17 letters. We believe that good-faith negotiations will enable us to
meet the Committee’s needs while protecting the Department’s institutional interests. We
are available to engage in staff-level meetings to determine which information requests
incorporated into your recent letters reflect the Committee’s current priorities in light of
prior Department responses and disclosures.

Finally, the Department is committed to protecting the rights of whistleblowers (i.e.,


employees or applicants for employment who have made a protected disclosure), and to
complying with both the letter and spirit of the Whistleblower Protection Act, 5 U.S.C.
§ 2302(b)(8). Nothing in the foregoing is intended to impact the requirements, obligations,
rights, sanctions, and liabilities created by controlling executive orders and statutory provisions.

We hope this information is helpful, and we look forward to a productive relationship.


Please do not hesitate to contact this office if we may provide additional assistance regarding this
or any other matter.

Sincerely,
Digitally signed
CARLOS byURIARTE
CARLOS

URIARTE Date: 2023.01.20


13:09:04 -05'00'
Carlos Felipe Uriarte
Assistant Attorney General

9
See, e.g., Letter from Megan A. Bennett, ATF, to Rep. Jordan (Jan. 2, 2023); Letter from Assistant Attorney
General Carlos Felipe Uriarte to Reps. Jordan and Johnson (Dec. 6, 2022); Letter from Joshua R. Lipman, DEA, to
Reps. Jordan and Fitzgerald (Nov. 29, 2022); Letter from Assistant Attorney General Carlos Felipe Uriarte to Rep.
Jordan (Sept. 1, 2022); Letter from Jill C. Tyson, FBI, to Rep. Jordan (Oct. 21, 2022); Letter from Acting Assistant
Attorney General Peter S. Hyun to Rep. Jordan (July 27, 2022); Letter from Jill C. Tyson, FBI, to Reps. Jordan and
Turner (July 26, 2022); Letter from Jill C. Tyson, FBI, to Rep. Jordan (Jan. 28, 2022); Letter from Acting Assistant
Attorney General Peter S. Hyun to Rep. Jordan (Dec. 22, 2021).
The Honorable Jim Jordan
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cc:

The Honorable Jerrold L. Nadler


Ranking Member
Committee on the Judiciary
U.S. House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515

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