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Edit to durability section.

Removed about three lines of recently-added text in the section describing the Hulk's durability. They were virtually unreadable, as if written by someone with a third-grade command of written English.75.141.187.116 (talk) 03:08, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Redirect

The redirect link at the top of the page was entered incorrectly, it just goes back to the main page. It should be going to Hulk_disambiguation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.23.150.115 (talk) 21:00, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Science behind Powers

I have to agree with whomever removed the section under powers and abilites from that section. Though I don't agree with their comment they left, nor do I agree with removing it from the article. But it should not be listed under powers and abilities. Possibly adding a seperate section for "Science behind the hero." --  Grimbear13 ►Talk  19:38, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

This has been discussed before. Removing it disconnects it from proper context, and leaves other trying to delete it entirely, we've seen that before. Any section of a good article should focus on the real world, out-of-story-universe context, criticism and information, presented in a reasonably balanced form, which the inclusion of the analysis meets. Separating them into separate sections essentially creates a fanboy powers list, and a decontextualized lump of unbalanced criticism of the character. For more, check the archives. ThuranX (talk) 15:20, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Concur with ThuranX. Brief, cited mentions within a larger context. Let's keep in mind, it's commenting on made-up science no one expects to be real, so it's essentially speculation for fan consumption and of dubious use to general public.--Tenebrae (talk) 19:02, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

The Riot Squad

I've been looking for Wikipedia pages on members of The The Riot Squad: {[Hot Shot (comics)|Hot Shot]], Jailbait, Ogress, Soul Man, Omnibus and even Rock and Redeemer and haven't been able to find any, though I'm afraid this might be based on disambiguation issues. Though the Riot Squad may not be major characters by any stretch of the imagination, I'm surprised they don't at least have a brief blurb. Here's an informal source that helped me find info: http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/riotsquad.html. Are they too obscure to deserve a Wikipedia page? I certainly don't think so considering how many obscure characters show up on Wikipedia.F. Simon Grant (talk) 20:38, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Other Collections

Other Hulk collected volumes include Broken Worlds, Giant-Size, and I believe there was a collection of the "Leader Gamma-Bombs Middletown" story, published many years ago. 38.111.35.2 (talk) 15:42, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Removal of Incarnation section

As the Incarnation section was one of the problems in this article long ago, prone to fanism and massive 'in-universe' citation only, and the relevant material was converted to out-of-universe stuff in the history and other sections, being described as how the writers reworked the character, I am removing the incarnations section. It is, simply, fan-based, fan-oriented material which is not encyclopedic, and is redundant to material otherwise included in more properly contextualized ways elsewhere. I believe it moves this page further and further away from regaining Good Article Status. ThuranX (talk) 16:52, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Confusing Sentence

"The character has since been depicted in various other media, most notably by Bill Bixby as Dr. David Banner and Lou Ferrigno as the Hulk in the live action television series, five made-for-television movies, and an animated series; through the use of CGI in Hulk (2003) and The Incredible Hulk (2008), as well as in three animated series and various video games." This sentence doesn't really make sense, but I don't know how to improve it. ~ 24.130.127.92 (talk) 20:26, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Picture

Shouldn't you maybe try to find a drawing of the Hulk where the perspective isn't massively off? His arms shouldn't look that long from that perspective. Bad, bad art. 174.89.31.50 (talk) 16:57, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

You won't find a drawing of Hulk where the perspective isn't massively off. He doesn't have remotely human proportions. His arms are bigger than his legs, his head is smaller than his hands.Cromulant (talk) 21:52, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

That's no excuse for bad art. His proportions may be inhuman but they have to be consistent. 86.31.10.18 (talk) 10:01, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Actually, that's not a bad point. We're so used to seeing him that we automatically read the foreshortening. But to a non-comics fan coming to this encyclopedia, there's no way he or she would know what he normally looks like, and may think that the character does have hands bigger than his head — it's comics; that wouldn't be unusual for a character. It's a nice, dramatic picture, no question, but it terms of serving a narrow encyclopedic purpose, it really probably isn't the best one we could choose to accomplish that. --Tenebrae (talk) 14:13, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Hulk incarnations and more

Shouldn't we start a section describing the different incarnations of the Hulk which includes detailed information about the Green Hulk, the Grey Hulk, and the Merged Hulk? Outside of that, we should find a way to have the recent events of the Hulk updated with positive confirmation on how Hulk was separated from Bruce Banner in the recent issues of "The Incredible Hulk" Vol. 3. Rtkat3 (talk) 2:24, April 11 2012 (UTC)

That's not a bad point, about the different incarnations. The information is there in the article, just buried in the chronology and in the Powers and abilities section. Perhaps a brief subsection within Powers and abilities, incorporating what's already there in that section about the different versions and doing it as a bulleted list of where and when each first appeared? Has vol. 3 stated specifically how the separation happened? Right now, the paragraph on volume 3 seems to give the overview well and seems the right length. --Tenebrae (talk) 19:17, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't know. Nobody had positive confirmation on this. However Hulk and Bruce Banner were separated, this must be mentioned before the arc which has Hulk fighting Bruce Banner comes to a close. Outside of that, Hulk has approached Doctor Strange into assembling a new incarnation of the Defenders when the essence of Nul: Breaker of Worlds escapes from it's hammer ever since what happened during the Fear Itself storyline. Rtkat3 (talk) 3:26, April 11 2012 (UTC)

Chemami?

I noticed above the picture above the info box that instead of saying "The Incredible Hulk" it says "Chemami". Any reason for this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.105.248.163 (talk) 13:44, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Aliases

I think these aliases need going through, justifying and sourcing. The parameter is for notable aliases, not short lived names, nicknames and epithets and yet here this seems to be a collection of every thing he has ever been called.

• War - May need justification, only appeared in 2 issues apparently. Not a long term alias.
• Annihilator - Removed Can find no reference to this
• Captain Universe - Removed
• Joe Fixit
• Mr. Fixit - Removed
• Mechano - Removed
• Professor Bruce Bancroft - Removed (http://www.leaderslair.com/noexcuses/hulk2-369.html) off hand name as far as I can tell
• David Banner - Removed TV alias
• David Bixby - Removed Cannot find one reference to this
• Robert "Bob" Banner - Removed
• Bruce Jones - Removed This appears to be the author of a run of Hulk comics O_o
• Bruce Roberts - Removed Only reference to this is in other lists of Hulk aliases which this was either copied from or was copied from here since they're exactly the same
• David Blaine - Removed Appears to be a TV show alias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Incredible_Hulk_episodes#Season_1)
• Green Scar
• World-Breaker
• Sakaarson
• Nul: Breaker of Worlds - Removed as different character, not an alias

Now David Blaine? Is that real? I admit I don't know all of these so I couldn't even say if they were real. Green Scar, World-Breaker and Sakaarson are all nicknames and epithets. You MIGHT be able to swing Green Scar, but its a push. I'm also fairly sure the latter two are the same thing said by different people. I doubt that David Banner, David Bixby, Robert Banner, Bruce Jones, Bruce Roberts and David Blaine (if that is real) are notable aliases so they need justifying. No clue on Mechano or Bruce Bancroft. I know Joe Fixit was the Grey Hulk right? Well these sound like the exact same alias. Captain Universe, I'm guessing a brief possession? Same with Annihiliator and War. Nul is a completely different character who possessed the Hulk, he exists independently. It is not an alias (i.e. alternate identity). These need sourcing/explaining/justifying or they need to be removed. There's no way all of them are notable aliases. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:08, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Agree. Some of these are honorific titles. I haven't read the Hulk comic in quite some time now, so if he's used "David Bixby" or such, I don't know and I'd say we need cites. But any version of Robert Bruce Banner, Bob Banner, etc. isn't an alias but simply a formal name or a variation on a name. I don't think we need both "Joe Fixit" and "Mr. Fixit." And if we were including Captain Universe everywhere that force has taken over somebody, we'd have it as an "alias" — in quotes — for half the Marvel Universe. Slash away, I say.--Tenebrae (talk) 20:15, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

A lot of them sound like fake names he may have used to disguise his own identity, like flashing an ID at someone for one panel and thats it. Given the Mechano reference leads to a time he was disguised as a robot clown juggling animals, I'm willing to bet a lot of them are not long-term notable aliases. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:30, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Performed a big cull, can't remember the Green Scar/World-Breaker/Sakaarson stuff but as far as I am aware an Alias is essentially another identity and World-Breaker and Sakaarson were just titles as Tenebrae said. I think he DID go by Green Scar though for most of WWH and Planet Hulk. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:51, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

So When Did Hulk First Appear in the Comic...May 1962 or May 1963, you have both dates?

Says 1962 in the info box thing on the right sidebar but says 1963 in the text 98.193.176.171 (talk) 21:30, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

The first one was a mistake. Thanks for pointing it out. --Musdan77 (talk) 23:00, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Splitting

Does anyone think this might benefit from being split into Hulk the character and Hulk the comic book? It needs a thorough overhaul anyway but there seenms to be fartoo much content about both subjects to fit in this one place, especially with the extensive bibliography. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 21:24, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Maybe... though I'd like to see an attempt to trim the plot first. After that, Would we be doing separate articles for each title (not each volume of each title though) or one lump Hulk (comic book) covering all of them? - J Greb (talk) 21:56, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

My initial thought was Hulk (comic book) or The Incredible Hulk (comic book) if that is what it has always been called, in the vein of The Amazing Spider-Man, which would be classed as a finished series because now i think it is The Indestructible Hulk which has its own article. Shift the bibliography table out, the history of the book that is unrelated to the changes to the character and yeah, probably a plot trim too. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:08, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

And we have a Hulk in other media article but there is a lot of that on here too. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:58, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

I had actually been working on a List of Hulk titles article in my sandbox, and was gonna split the bibliography table off to it when I was done, as was done with similar huge bibliography tables (Thor, Iron Man, Daredevil, etc). Not sure if that covers your major concern, it could probably use separate prose articles on the character and comic book, too.

And yeah, most of that other media stuff needs to be clipped. -Fandraltastic (talk) 23:03, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

The bibliography is part of the problem, its kind of like over at Avengers (comics) where it's part about the comic book, and part about the Avengers team, switching back and forth between fictional and real world context, like in the infobox (I think there is actually a guideline about not adding every single team when there are that many). I imagine the Hulk series of books is notable enough to have its own independent article dedicated wholly to that, and the Hulk character should be about his development info, reception, impact and whatever, like the Superman and Batman articles, the Batman one is suffering from the same plot bloat at the moment but it is about the character and his fictional and real world history, the book is treated as its own separate entity. I don't follow Hulk super closely so JGreb might have a point, in that maybe Hulk (comic book) would be a good launching pad, perhaps that would serve as a disambiguation page to the character, The Incredible Hulk (comic book), The Indestructible Hulk, Hulk (the red hulk one) and whatever else there is. Though I imagine not all of those have articles. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:16, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Ok, so reading through it, it seems that Publication History is just that, and could be almost easily spun off into a The Incredible Hulk (comic book) article, I say almost easily because here and there people have thought it was the bio and added some plot and because every hulk book redirects here, there are sometimes mentions of like 3 different books history in the same paragraph. The characterization 'appears' to be the equivalent of the Fictional character biography section mixed with some actual characterization. I think if we go that way, making The Incredible Hulk (comic book) would be a quick 30 minute job while you'd leave the creation/debut stuff here, or at least in part what is referencing the character directly. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 02:35, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Rampant recentism

At 800 words, the five-year section "Retitling and new Hulk series" is WAY long than the 1960s and 1970s sections combined — longer than 18 years of the character's creation and development and the introduction of its longstanding antagonists and supporting cast. We need to trim it and give a less fannish tone. Does the average researcher really need to know about the "fastball special" in one story?? --Tenebrae (talk) 03:01, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

This kind of thing is a common problem on every comic article, the people writing these things weren't alive and/or wikipedia didn't exist when the earlier stories were around, else they'd be in the same shape. Honestly I think comic articles are the one thing that can't be fixed on here, the big ones never stop having story, and they attract editors for whom source is what goes on your burger and chips. The issue also ties into the above section where we discussed splitting, the publication history for instance criss crosses between actual publication history and just plot retelling. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 21:02, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

The section in question is also flipping back and forth between Hulk and The Incredible Hulk, the article is covering for multiple differenct series AND the character. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 21:11, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

"Source is what goes on your burger and chips"! Hah! That is great!

It's not unsalvageable; the rest of the article is pretty good, in fact, and if examples such as Spider-Man (which was a mess before consensus formally solidified against fictography are any indication, this one can be brought up to par. Are ya with me, bunky? --Tenebrae (talk) 22:23, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

If you look in the histoy I've already done some extensive culling and tidy up. I think a big step is to separate out the comic book(s) from the character, Spider-Man doesn't contain The Amazing Spider-Man, Spectacular Spider-Man, Web of Spider-Man, etc and it seems bizarre that The Incredible Hulk doesn't have its own article but The Incredible Hercules does, which could take most of the internal biography elements away from here. It would allow the article to be focused on its subject and like the Spider-Man article, just have a section that covers the most important elements of the characters history. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:49, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

The characterization section seems to be largely plot, at least the Hulk segment. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:51, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Ah. Didn't get to the characterization section. Well, at least we got the PH trimmed — and do feel free to rework or reuse it in The Incredible Hulk article, if that's the way to go.

Have you noticed things have been very calm and productive lately here on WIkiProject Comics? Makes me wonder when the other shoe will drop! --Tenebrae (talk) 23:58, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Depends when something happens involving the character(s), like films that;s when everyone comes to correct all that is wrong with Wikipedia no matter how many times you tell them that the liquid in Prometheus is not a dormant creature. We could maybe use Superman as a template for improving/organizing this article, I am periodically workin on Joker as well since it's amazing the character is not even a GA. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 07:14, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

I've expanded The Incredible Hulk (comic book), but I'm not sure what needs to be copied over there and removed here. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 12:44, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Someone with more knowledge of the character could do with looking at the plot parts, I'm not very informed on the character but there is virtually no mention of planet hulk or WWH despite them being big moments, or his second son or Betty's death, and at the same time unimportant moments need to go. This should be a brief overview of key elements. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:08, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Useful sources

• http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2012/11/21/indestructible-hulk-marvel-comic-book-series/1719061/
• http://uk.comics.ign.com/top-100-villains/54.html
• http://uk.comics.ign.com/top-100-villains/63.html
• http://uk.comics.ign.com/top-100-villains/71.html

Darkwarriorblake (talk) 21:30, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

bad grammar

The First line in the header use to say "The Hulk is a fictional character, a comic book superhero appearing in publications by Marvel Comics" It just sounds terrible and should say "The Hulk is a fictional comic book superhero appearing in publications by Marvel Comics". discuss 67.170.169.30 (talk) 21:38, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

I would like to strongly disagree. In my opinion, I think it's fine as it was, just like the other comic book superhero articles. Batman194 (talk) 21:44, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Someone once told me, "I strongly encourage you not to edit based on your perceptions of what is and isn't correct English". This is why you must try not to based on your assumptions on what is correct or incorrect English grammar, as you did with this revert. Batman194 (talk) 22:00, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

loss of real world content

I noticed, after recently returning to this article ,that all the real world material I found and added over years, which brought this article up to Good Article status, is gone. Editorial commentary, critical response, history of the character's popularity, the science of his powers being multiply examined, all that's gone in favor of yet another bad comic book character fluff piece chock full of 'in universe' anecdotes and occasional promo-blurbs from the writers, talking about their own tenures, rather than finding better critical review thereof.

What happened, and can we please move this article back towards GA? ThuranX (talk) 17:48, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Anything to do with the comic book and not the character was moved to an article on the comic book, anything unsourced was removed. It was also a good article for only a month. So it probably wasn't something representative of good. For reference this is the GA version, almost all of it is unsourced or just plot. Now if anything useful was removed in the big change relating directly to the character? Feel free to move it back or duplicate it here. But this is for the character, not hte books. DWB (talk) / Comment on Dredd's FA nom! 17:53, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

This is how the moderators wreck articles. They think the wikipedia is the Encyclopedia Britannica and all anyone wants is "just the facts, ma'am. Just the facts." But no, people can get that from any of as large number of sources. They want further information, fine details, unusual details, which is removed by the wreckers. "Unsourced" is wikispeak for OK you got the information from reading the comics but that doesn't count 'cos you didn't say that, and how do we know the information in those comics is true? Dweeb. (178.236.117.122 (talk) 19:51, 8 January 2014 (UTC))

Does the Hulk have super human durability?

DangerousGame has suggested the category:Fictional characters with superhuman durability, I think its a different ability from super human strength. Is the Hulk somewhat more durable thana regular person? I know he mostly regenerates so quickly it looks like he's invulnerable. CensoredScribe (talk) 16:07, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

He is. He has repeatedly withstood nuclear explosions without a scratch. David A (talk) 18:31, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Hulk/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

2 images, 113 citations. JJ98 (Talk) 02:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Last edited at 02:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC). Substituted at 20:31, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:05, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

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• Hulk (comics) → Hulk
• Hulk → Hulk (disambiguation)

– The character seems to be the clear WP:PTOPIC here. There seems to have been only one previous discussion on the matter 8 years ago, with very little input. The page has been viewed 283,876 times over the last 90 days. There are over 20 Wikipedia articles with "Hulk" in the title that are adaptations of the character, less than half a dozen that are not. If we look at the other items on the disambig page, over half of the items there are media adaptations of the character. The others are:

• Footballer Givanildo Vieira de Souza (131,283 page views), who says he was nicknamed "Hulk" after the character
• Footballer Antonio Salazar (1,981 page views)
• A type of ship (12,402 page views)
• A second type of ship (4,486 page views)

The only item on the page (excluding media adaptations of the character) with more views is Hulk Hogan, whose page has been viewed 722,446 times (which includes a huge spike on April 9th, a date which coincides with the death of a rival wrestler). Hogan also adopted the name due to the character, which is sourced on the page toward the bottom of this section. This Google nGram shows that both "The Hulk" and "Incredible Hulk" have consistently received more coverage in books than "Hulk Hogan". The Hulk Hogan page is already clearly disambiguated via his last name, and an additional hatnote could be added here if deemed necessary. Fandraltastic (talk) 02:39, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose clearly the most encyclopedic topic and the one found in scholarly sources is the ship type. Per your own usage stats, the comics is not that much greater than the footballer, and it doesn't matter where his name derives from WP:NOTINHERITED. Hulk Hogan is frequently called "Hulk" as well. I don't see any primary topic based on usage either. Further, not just the character, but the various Hulk properties the character appears should also be checked, such as The Incredible Hulk, aka "the Hulk comic book". Is it the character or one of the properties that is more deserving of the hits that are coming here, since the disambiguatory term on this article is imprecise and not descriptive enough to determine this is a character article. -- 70.24.250.192 (talk) 04:34, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

• I don't believe WP:NOTINHERITED applies, as I am not suggesting that the character is notable due to an arbitrary relation to a notable subject. I was actually suggesting the opposite, that the term "Hulk" was used by the footballer and Hogan due to the notability of the character. And yes, the various adaptations, especially recent ones, have a lot of page hits, but I'd argue that they all spawn out of the character, making it the primary topic. In the same way the character pages for Batman, Superman and Spider-Man are the respective primaries. (And I know, WP:OTHERSTUFF. I was not suggesting we perform the move due to those situations, I am merely attempting to give relevant examples) -Fandraltastic (talk) 05:20, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose - pretty much verbatim as 70.24.250.192. Also a hulk is a hulk. There is no primary topic for this common word. Even among the Hulk franchise, not clear that Hulk (comics) is more notable than film or character. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:50, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

• This article is actually about the character. I understand that that's unclear, as the disambiguation is very imprecise. -Fandraltastic (talk) 05:30, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

• Strong support - clear primary topic. But I would also support The Hulk as per WP:THE. Red Slash 03:26, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose: This is fannish myopia, and misconstrues WP:PRIMARY in several ways, as 70.24.250.192 and Fandraltastic explain, above (where they agree). The comics, films and other discrete topics relating to the character do not all "add up" into more support for the character being the main topic, but actually detract from that consideration – they're competing, not cumulative. The modern ship type is clearly the primary topic, and is what the character is metaphorically named after. I would also support The Hulk as main article name for the character.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  09:22, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
• Support. Looking at the disambiguation page, it is clear that the comics character is the primary topic. JIP | Talk 14:46, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose Pagehits be damned, this has other meanings. If you want to start getting picky, the ships are the only things called just "hulk" (except recent movies and such). The comic character is "the Hulk", and that's already a redirect. Peter ^Isotalo 23:14, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
• Support. I concur with Red Slash that "The Hulk" would be better. The character has 17 times as many page views and the two types of "hulk" ships combined. Not many readers would type in "hulk" expecting the footballer to come up. I assume readers who seek the footballer are typing in his name. Guelf (talk) 16:02, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
• Move to The Hulk. I'm not convinced there should be a primary topic for merely "Hulk". Both the comics and the ship type have roughly equal long-term significance. I do agree on the WP:THE and natural disambiguation alternative title of "The Hulk". Zzyzx11 (talk) 13:42, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
• Move to The Hulk. The ships are just as significant. Hit results will always be skewed towards the comic book character due to the huge use of the internet by geeky types! That doesn't make the big green chap the primary topic in the real world. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:10, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

• Move "Hulk (comics)" to The Hulk and "hulk (ship)" to hulk. Add {{tl:about|the fictional superhero|the ship|hulk|other uses|hulk (disambiguation)}} and {{tl:about|the ship|fictional superhero|The Hulk|other uses|hulk (disambiguation)}} wp:hatnotes (cf. {{distinguish}}) to each article repectively. The type of ship incapable of sailing by its own means has "greater enduring notability and educational value" per qualitative wp:primarytopic. ^walk victor falk ^talk 22:25, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

• Comment - We cannot move to it "The Hulk", which clearly violates WP:THE. Go to WP:THE#Other cases and you'll even see as a clear example there that it's not The Joker, but Joker (comics). Likewise we don't have The Spirit, we have Spirit (comics). We don't have The Flash, we have Flash (comics). The Hulk is no different. While we have The Shadow, we're not talking about the character himself but "a collection of serialized dramas, originally in 1930s pulp novels, and then in a wide variety of media." Neither is The Phantom about the character but rather "an American adventure comic strip created by Lee Falk." Whether we call it "Hulk" as it is now or "Hulk (comics)" as is proposed, adding "The" creates enormous consistency problems and will — as happened years ago in WikiProject Comics — lead to endless debates and RfCs over whether this or that person's favorite character should have "The". --Tenebrae (talk) 22:46, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

We can use "The" in the title if it is part of the name. Cf. The New York Times. Is "The Hulk" the common usage? Kablammo (talk) 19:10, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

It's not part of the name, any more so than the Joker, the Flash, the Spirit, the Wasp, the Scorpion, the Mirror Master, the Owl, the Grey Gargoyle, the Red Skull, etc., etc. The New York Times is a proper-noun formal title. Apples and oranges.--Tenebrae (talk) 21:21, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose moving Hulk (comics) to Hulk. We should not allow pop culture usages to usurp the primary uses of a term. See Talk:Corvette/Archive_2. Tenebrae's comments above list a number of terms used for comic book characters, and undoubtedly there are many other such terms used for games, television shows, films, and similar items of pop culture. But such terms have a primary meaning, which should be preferred in an encylopedia. Kablammo (talk) 19:10, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

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Incorrect description of the Hulk.

The line "Throughout his comic book appearances, the Hulk is portrayed as a large green humanoid that possesses near limitless superhuman strength and great invulnerability, attributes that grow more potent the angrier he becomes." is incorrect.

The Hulk has been portrayed as grey, not green, many times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.64.0.252 (talk) 14:39, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2015

180.191.111.84 (talk) 09:06, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

id like to edit hulk because i read all the issue of the comics from the internet and comics

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 12:58, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Grey or gray?

The article uses both and we should probably pick one. I thought "gray" was the usual USian spelling, but "grey" is currently used more often in the article (9 to 6 when I checked). I don't have an issue handy; which spelling was used in the comics? 64.235.97.146 (talk) 15:41, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

I have removed all instances of "gray". "Grey" is now consistent in the article. A Google search seems to lean towards "Grey Hulk" and not "Gray Hulk", and all instances of "gray" in the article were referring to the colour and not the character so in those instances it doesn't matter. —DangerousJXD (talk) 22:18, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

ID/id

Towards the end of the “Fictional character biography” section, there is a sentence that mentions Kluh “sneering that the Hulk they knew was nothing more than a ‘sad piece of “Doc Green’s” ID.’” I suspect that “ID” is a misreading of id, caused by comics’ customary use of all capitals.—Quick and Dirty User Account (talk) 09:58, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

He should have regenerative healing factor as one of his abilities.

This quote is taken from the official marvel page at http://marvel.com/characters/25/hulk :

The Hulk has shown a high resistance to physical damage nearly regardless of the cause, and has also shown resistance to extreme temperatures, mind control, nuclear explosions, poisons, and all diseases. In addition to the regeneration of limbs, vital organs, and damaged or destroyed areas of tissue at an amazing rate.

A little bit of googling will also show that he has healed many times in movies, and has also shown to fully regenerate his entire body back from being burnt almost to a skeleton:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/99449/4623150-hulk_regenerates_flesh_in_seconds.jpg

This is heavily backed up by http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/powersabilities.html which shows all of hulks abilities, it also shows that he has a similar ability to Darwin, which allows to him to breathe underwater, essentially growing gills by adapting to his environment, Reactive evolution, which could be added to his list of abilities, but for real, his regenerative healing factor needs to be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.232.208.120 (talk) 23:33, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

In addition, he has a certain degree of invulnerability due to his accelerated regenerative healing factor Stalingold11 (talk) 03:50, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Exclusion of television series.

I'm sorry but trying to exclude the TV series from the lead because "it's not the same character" is beyond ridiculous. It's one of the most well known adaptations of the character and arguably what made him iconic.*Trekker (talk) 09:07, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

You're wrong! Media adaptions are supposed to stick to the source material. What's ridiculous is creating something else and putting another things name on it trying to pass it off like they're one and the same when they're not!.Zjec (talk) 02:14, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I didn't realize that you were a troll. I feel stupid now.*Trekker (talk) 09:18, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I didn't realize that you were a troll/spam artist, thank you so much for your showing me your true nature.Zjec (talk) 02:28, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

I know I shouldn't bother with it but I just want to point out that you've probably hurt your own case even more by using sock puppets. There really is nothing to gain by that kind of stuff.*Trekker (talk) 07:44, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

I have blocked the pair of you for violating the three revert rule (by my counts you've both breached 10RR in under an hour) and personal attacks. Stop insulting each other and try and reach a compromise. My personal preference is for this version as it is conciser and gives a sufficient summary for the casual reader; as it is, the lead is a little on the large side, even for an article with 44K of prose. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:24, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Both of you were wrong to edit war and *Treker shouldn't have assumed bad faith by calling Zjec a "troll". That being said, *Treker was right to revert the initial edit. We don't remove material simply because you don't it's close enough to the source material. That's considered POV editing, unless you genuinely believed that the show and comic are unrelated, in which case there are reliable sources that contradict that. DarkKnight2149 16:20, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, this is a pretty ridiculous argument. Of course the television series should be included. - adamstom97 (talk) 22:38, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

No it shouldn't! if it doesn't follow the source material, then it shouldn't be associated with the true version. It's supposed to be about Bruce Banner, the original and constant one everyone else is familiar with, not some cheap knock-off that didn't follow through with the original concept.Zjec (talk) 04:11, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Again, read WP:NPOV. We aren't about to remove valid material simply because you resent the show for not completely sticking to the comic. Like it or not, the television series is an officially liscensed adaptation. DarkKnight2149 18:05, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

No if it doesn't follow the source material, it's not relevant. It's supposed to be about Bruce Banner, the original version and constant one people are familiar with, nothing more than that.Zjec (talk) 08:35, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

And, once again, we're going to need a better reason to remove it than "I don't like it because it's not like the source material." It is an officially liscensed adaptation, and a relatively famous one at that. DarkKnight2149 03:45, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

• I have to agree with Ritchie333 that the lede could be shorter. That said, there otherwise appears to be a consensus that popular officially licensed adaptions should be mentioned, which I don't think necessarily has to conflict with the need for a shorter lede. The article on Lou Ferrigno likewise says that he's primarily known for playing the Hulk. Ian.thomson (talk) 04:07, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps we can reword the lead to make it shorter, though I should point out that's not the reasoning that Zjec gave for the removal. That aside, I would be willing to shorten it myself, unless another user would wants to do it instead. DarkKnight2149 17:46, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

The length is fine, the article is too short on non-plot content, but the amount of lead content is suitable for something that yideally will one day be a Featured Article. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 20:12, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Bringing the article to FA length could also work; it's the proportions that are a bit skewed. Ian.thomson (talk) 04:45, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Typo in Fictional Character Biography section

in the fictional character biography section there is a sentence that reads "At the close of the storyline, Doc Green discovered that he was beginning to disappear as the result of the Extremis serum losing wearing off." "losing wearing" is obviously a typo. 129.42.208.182 (talk) 21:15, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

 Done.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 21:26, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2017

Powers and Abilities:

• Vast superhuman strength
• Superhuman speed
• Superhuman stamina
• Superhuman durability
• Superhuman endurance
• Accelerated/Regenerative healing factor
• Longevity 2405:204:B005:E560:B8D8:4012:C3E0:F4ED (talk) 21:37, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 22:12, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

He should also have anger empowerment as one his abilities.

Its stated everywhere

That the angrier he gets then the stronger he gets. Its backed up at www.incrediblehulkonline.com/powersabilities.html. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.186.241.238 (talk) 17:42, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 14 April 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page as proposed at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 20:41, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

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Hulk (comics) → Hulk (character) – Per the discussion at WP:NCCDAB, comic characters should be titled using "(character)" instead of "(comic)". This is followed at other comic character articles such as Wolverine (character) and Poison Ivy (character). Natg 19 (talk) 00:49, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support per nom. The character has moved around outside of comics for quite some time now. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:59, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose "character" is too vague to use as a disambiguation considering Hulk in other media. The comics history of the character should be made distinct from the others in some way. The characters seem to be growing well beyond their comic roots into mainstream media, especially the film series, and I feel like we need a better approach to laying these articles out. I'd not oppose move to Hulk (comics character) or Hulk (Marvel Comics character), but this all really needs to be hashed out. Look at Draft:Iron Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe) for the sort of other character articles we can expect might be coming. -- Netoholic @ 17:15, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose - I agree with Netoholic on this one. --Rtkat3 (talk) 17:48, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose, I didn't realize when I commented above that the page was only for the comics character and not for the entire history of the fictional entity. In that case 'comics' is fine as a descriptor. More is probably not needed, per brevity. Randy Kryn (talk) 19:50, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• comment - not ready to decide just yet, but it's worth noting The Incredible Hulk (comic book) exists, and that there was a 2008 comic book titled "Hulk". Argento Surfer (talk) 11:52, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

  From reading the comments above it’s seems the correct title maybe Hulk (comics character) to disambiguate it from both Hulk in other media and The Incredible Hulk (comic book).—TriiipleThreat (talk) 13:13, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

  Yeah, I think (comics character) is the way to go. Argento Surfer (talk) 00:32, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support as instructed in the guideline page. Note that Hulk may have been used in several media, but he was created as a comic book character and all the others are adaptations of the comics. Cambalachero (talk) 18:59, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 22 November 2018

State that Hulk may be based on the DC Comics supervillain Solomon Grundy, because the video "10 characters Marvel stole from DC" claims that Hulk came from Solomon Grundy 184.155.198.149 (talk) 01:45, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 02:22, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

The Hulk

The Hulk Is Now Dead According To The New Movie So Why Would You Make This? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.43.199.237 (talk) 22:45, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

This article is about the character as depicted in a variety of sources. There's more than just the movie. This article existed before the latest movies came out. There's still a comic book series that's going on where Hulk's still quite active regardless of Banner's current health.

This talk page is for discussing improvements to the article. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:48, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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"Such as" cushion stuffing

One of the most iconic characters in popular culture, the character has appeared on a variety of merchandise, such as clothing and collectable items, inspired real-world structures (such as theme park attractions), and been referenced in a number of media.

It's a long lead already, and I don't see either of these "such as" clauses as a big value add; it mainly serves to lower to the tone to one of explaining the obvious to a five-year-old.

The character has appeared on a variety of merchandise, inspired real-world structures, and been widely referenced in media.

To my eye, this also eliminates the fumbling "in a number of" and does the whole of the necessary job in the lead context—with less fawning puff, though there is a fine trace of irony in the barely restrained enthusables as the text presently stands, if that's the effect we're after. — MaxEnt 21:44, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting trimming the leading, quasi-independent clause—which works here—even though I despise this construction seven times out of ten. — MaxEnt 21:48, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2020

Change super strength under abilities to unlimited super strength 196.13.208.234 (talk) 03:14, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. No apparent reason to do so. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 22:14, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

The Hulk's Height & Weight

The article says Hulk weighs up to 1,400 lbs and is 7' - 8', and gives a link. The link needs to be changed.

This is what the link should be:

Says The Hulk weighs 1,150 lbs and is 7'6. <!!!-- Template:Unsigned IP -->— Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.191.31.56 (talk) 07:16, 23 October 2020 (UTC) <!!!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

References

Semi-protected edit request on 13 December 2020

Before: "As Bruce Banner, the character is approximately 5 ft 9 in (1.75 m) tall and weighs 128 lb (58 kg), but when transformed into the Hulk, the character can stand between 7 and 8 feet (2.1 and 2.4 m) tall and weigh up to 1,400 lb (640 kg)".

After: "As Bruce Banner, the character is approximately 5 ft 9 in / 5 ft 10 in (1.75 m / 1.77 m) tall and weighs 128 lb (58.06 kg), but when transformed into the Hulk, he stands between 6 ft 6 in (1.98 m) to 8 ft 8 in (2.43 m) tall and weighs 900 lb (408.23 kg) to 2,400 lb (1,088.62 kg). In other circumstances (i.e. Hulk 2003), the Hulk is 9 feet (2.74 m) to 15 feet (4.57 m) with a maximum weight of up to 3 tons (6,000 lb). JT-Gamer96 (talk) 16:56, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 14:05, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2021

the hulk also had the abilities to see ghost on the Astral plain and detect lies. Its in the " immortal hulk" series 2603:6081:2A04:5B50:343B:F36F:A4F6:42B3 (talk) 22:52, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:05, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

The Making Of Hulk

The making of Hulk in Avengers Endgame starts with Mark Ruffalo^[1], the actor for Hulk adds motion capture get-up[2]. The motion includes a camera that mimics his facial expressions and movements to digital Professor Hulk. When Professor Hulk is speaking and changing facial expressions, it doesn’t look artificial. The program was all invented and made into a great beast. In Endgame, when you find Professor Hulk attempting to figure out how to save the people from Quantum Realm. Throughout the scene, the characters have to look up to make it seem that he is there. By Avengers: Endgame, the two have merged into one being, with Banner's personality existing within Hulk's body.[3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:8C2:8000:D6E0:7470:B100:478D:1E55 (talk) 19:17, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2022

Would it be possible to Add the Nickname Green Behemoth on the Hulks page, he is called it numerous times throughout his publication by both writer's and characters in the comics. OriginalTabs (talk) 14:36, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:43, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2022

Remove the red links of The Indestructible Hulk! 2804:7F2:699:EC11:7D16:CA39:B41F:3F17 (talk) 06:29, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Why? It seems fine per WP:REDLINKS. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:10, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2021

2405:205:C963:14E9:541B:DB21:B91A:4978 (talk) 09:50, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 11:45, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

w o w The Cheese Frauder (talk) 14:49, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2022

Would it be possible to Add the Nickname Green Behemoth on the Hulks page, he is called it numerous times throughout his publication by both writer's and characters in the comics. OriginalTabs (talk) 14:36, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:43, 31 May 2022 (UTC)