On the March 8 episode of the New York Times’ The Ezra Klein Show podcast, Professor Mary Ziegler discussed how conservative and progressive states have diverged since Roe v. Wade was overturned.

Mary Ziegler is an expert on the law, history, and politics of reproduction, health care, and conservatism in the United States from 1945 to the present. She is one of the world’s leading historians of the U.S. abortion debate.