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Roman nomen gentilicium
standard part of the name of a Roman, link to items about the Roman gens only

Represents	nomen (Q3760158)
Data type	Item
Example	Marcus Annius Verus (Q745241) → Annius (Q32978828) Marcus Calpurnius Bibulus (Q316775) → Calpurnius (Q32978928)
See also	Roman praenomen (P2358), Roman cognomen (P2365), Roman agnomen (P2366), signum (P5438)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties By value of property Most statements Fewest statements Most sitelinks Most linked wikis Total of sitelinks on items Most identifiers Fewest identifiers Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Database reports/Humans with missing claims/P2359 Database reports/Constraint violations/P2359 Map Random list
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Current uses	Total 8,423 Main statement 8,420 >99.9% of uses Qualifier 3 <0.1% of uses
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Conflicts with “family name (P734)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2359#Conflicts with P734, search, SPARQL

Conflicts with “given name (P735)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2359#Conflicts with P735, search, SPARQL

Conflicts with “family name identical to this given name (P1533): family name (Q101352), male given name (Q12308941), female given name (Q11879590), unisex given name (Q3409032), given name (Q202444), Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2359#Conflicts with P1533, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Conflicts with “subclass of (P279)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2359#Conflicts with P279, search, SPARQL

Value type “nomen (Q3760158)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value nomen (Q3760158) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2359#Value type Q3760158, SPARQL

Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2359#Scope, SPARQL

Item “Roman praenomen (P2358)”: Items with this property should also have “Roman praenomen (P2358)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2359#Item P2358, search, SPARQL

Item “instance of (P31): human (Q5), human whose existence is disputed (Q21070568), fictional human formerly considered to be historical (Q64520857), prosopographical phantom (Q64643615), hypothetical person (Q75855169), mythical character (Q4271324), legendary figure (Q13002315), fictional human (Q15632617), human biblical figure (Q20643955), legendary human figure (Q124710051)”: Items with this property should also have “instance of (P31): human (Q5), human whose existence is disputed (Q21070568), fictional human formerly considered to be historical (Q64520857), prosopographical phantom (Q64643615), hypothetical person (Q75855169), mythical character (Q4271324), legendary figure (Q13002315), fictional human (Q15632617), human biblical figure (Q20643955), legendary human figure (Q124710051)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2359#Item P31

Item “time period (P2348): Roman Kingdom (Q201038), Roman Republic (Q17167), Roman Empire (Q2277), Early Roman Republic (Q2839628), Middle Roman Republic (Q6106068), Late Roman Republic (Q2815472), High Roman Empire (Q787204), Low Roman Empire (Q2886278), First Roman Kingdom (Q3921629), Second Roman Kingdom (Q119137625), Classical Rome (Q6111354), Later Roman Empire (Q120754706)”: Items with this property should also have “time period (P2348): Roman Kingdom (Q201038), Roman Republic (Q17167), Roman Empire (Q2277), Early Roman Republic (Q2839628), Middle Roman Republic (Q6106068), Late Roman Republic (Q2815472), High Roman Empire (Q787204), Low Roman Empire (Q2886278), First Roman Kingdom (Q3921629), Second Roman Kingdom (Q119137625), Classical Rome (Q6111354), Later Roman Empire (Q120754706)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2359#Item P2348

Item “gens (P5025)”: Items with this property should also have “gens (P5025)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2359#Item P5025, search, SPARQL

Nomen is not a subclass of Gens

In any case, it is a subclass of Roman name. A subclass of Gens is Roman family. --Romulanus (talk) 09:49, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Please provide example

... of this property (Roman gentilicum) being used properly with the property gens (Q899409). There are several restraint violations, & I am unclear how to resolve them. Thanks. -- Llywrch (talk) 17:01, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

This property is incorrectly defined. Cornelius (Q29981742), Licinius (Q32979253), Valerius (Q32979453) are examples of Roman nomen gentilicium (P2359); Cornelia gens (Q221312), Licinia gens (Q636900), Valeria gens (Q1429412) are examples of gens (P5025). So:

• Lucius Cornelius Lentulus (Q947607) → Cornelius (Q29981742)
• Publius Licinius Crassus (Q746582) → Licinius (Q32979253)
• Gaius Valerius Flaccus (Q857131) → Valerius (Q32979453)

and with the example of the documentation:

• Marcus Annius Verus (Q745241) → Annius (Q32978828)

See also gens (P5025).

Un saludo. --Romulanus (talk) 23:48, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Widening scope of the property

Hello. Following this discussion on the WikiProject Ancient Rome, it was agreed to expand the scope of Roman praenomen (P2358), Roman nomen gentilicium (P2359) and Roman cognomen (P2365) to encompass others Ancient peoples of Italy (Q108810) of pre-Roman Italian Peninsula (Q145694), who shared similar naming practice. --Jahl de Vautban (talk) 08:21, 7 May 2020 (UTC)